Kate ([info]kate_nepveu) wrote,
@ 2005-07-21 21:01:00
Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend!  Next Entry
Entry tags:firefly, recommendations, tv

Why Watch Firefly (starting this Friday, i.e., tomorrow)

The SciFi Channel is broadcasting the entire run of Firefly, including the three episodes that Fox didn't air, starting with the first hour of the two-hour pilot on this Friday, July 22, at 7 p.m. (6 Central). (It appears that through August, they'll be airing one episode a week; I don't know if they'll speed up in September, because at that rate, they won't be done for the movie's premiere.)

(If you miss tomorrow's airing because I was so late in getting this post up, the first half of the pilot will also be shown next week at 6 p.m., so you could watch the entire pilot at once.)

Hence this post: why you should watch Firefly, starting this Friday (or rent/buy the DVD set—no commercials!). There are two reasons:

  1. Because the characters are great.
  2. Because you should go see the movie Serenity when it comes out September 30, and it will be more engaging if you already know the characters.

    (I realize this raises the secondary question of why you should go see Serenity—that one's easy, because if it doesn't make a bunch of money there won't be more Firefly movies, and I want more.)

The premise

(Apparently the Fox versions of this had an opening voiceover that provides a lot of the same information below. I hope the SciFi channel isn't using it, because the transcription I've seen of it looks awful.)

The basic premise of Firefly is two-part. First, there's a bunch of planets and moons that humanity has colonized; some are rich, well-populated, and technologically advanced, while others are poor and scratching out livings on dusty soil. Six years ago, there was a civil war between the Alliance and the Independents; the Alliance won. (When taken with the frontier nature of the poorer planets, people have found this reminiscent of the U.S. Civil War; however, in this future, it's the Alliance that permits slavery. [This is background material only, not plot fodder.])

Second, there's Malcolm Reynolds, who was a Sergeant on the losing side of the battle of Serenity Valley, the decisive battle of the war. Six years later, he's captain of the Firefly-class cargo ship Serenity, and with his crew does various odd jobs—sometimes legal, sometimes not so much—and generally tries to get by, as far away from the Alliance as possible.

(I'm about to spoil the pilot for you, but since the credits or the movie trailer will do most of the same, well, sorry.)

As the show opens, Serenity has illicitly salvaged some cargo and heads to deliver it and pick up some paying passengers for the next leg of their trip. They have to find another buyer for their salvage, however, and things are naturally a bit tense when, during the trip, one of their passengers sends a signal to the Alliance.

Turns out that the signal wasn't over the salvaged goods, however, but over one of the passengers, Dr. Simon Tam. Actually, over two of the passengers; Simon's smuggled his sister River on as cargo, in a cryo-sleep box. They're both on the run from the Alliance, because he's sacrificed his medical career and personal fortune to get her out of a government-funded school after getting a coded letter from her that said, "They're hurting us. Get me out."

What happened to River, and its effects, is a plot thread that runs throughout the series. There are a couple of shorter ones based around secondary characters, but the fourteen episodes are not tied together by a single constantly-advancing plot.

Reasons to watch

Perhaps it's easier to start with reasons not to watch Firefly. If you absolutely, positively cannot stomach being in the same room with science ignorance like an apparent lack of inertia, or technology that was designed for aesthetics rather than workability, then this is not the show for you. The worldbuilding is also somewhat sketchy; in particular, I'm sure it seemed like a nifty idea to have the entire society be bilingual in English and Chinese, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired. Basically, this is not meticulous hard-sf extrapolation.

Instead, the world is a place to explore the characters, who are the great pleasure of the show for me. There are nine of them, which is why you should watch the series, because even the best two-hour movie can't do justice to so many characters. A brief overview:

The original crew, as of the pilot:

  • Mal. The first time River meets Mal (in "The Train Job"), she stares after him and says, "Mal. Bad. In the Latin," which just enough pause after "bad" to make us wonder if she's passing a judgment on him. He's not, but he is thoroughly pragmatic: he's got his ship, he's got his crew, and that's all he's got left, so he'll do what he has to keep them safe and flying.
  • Zoe. Mal's former comrade-in-arms. The first mate, calm cool competent and kick-ass. Married to—
  • Wash. The pilot. Plays with plastic dinosaurs, wears Hawaiian shirts, and flies better than just about anyone.
  • Kaylee. The mechanic. Cheerful, sweet, earthy, and amazingly non-annoying.
  • Jayne (male). The muscle. Big guns and no tact, and amazingly interesting, eventually.
  • Inara. The Companion. A prostitute licensed through a Guild, which is a high-status position in this society. She rents one of Serenity's shuttles, claiming that it gives her more business opportunities, but she clearly has hidden motives for traveling. Unfortunately I found her less interesting over the course of the series, because when she and Mal are together, they get up my nose.

The passengers taken on in the pilot:

  • Simon Tam. Stronger and snarkier than he looks, though rather out-of-place on Serenity.
  • River Tam. The girl in a box; she doesn't see things the way others do. When this originally aired, a lot of people didn't like her early on. I don't know why; I think she's fascinating and a great character.
  • Shepherd Book. Clergy; "Shepherd" is a title. He's been in an Abbey for a while and looking to see the world (again? He also has secrets in his past.).

I think the best thing I can say about the character development is to say that by the end, I was actually kinda liking Jayne, which I would never have predicted from the start. Everyone's got layers and actual relationships with each other, and it's those things that fuel the series' themes of loyalty and home. Which sounds horribly stiff and boring, so now I have to find some snarky quotes that will make sense out of context, like Zoe responding to Alliance questioning in her best deadpan fashion:

HARKEN: You fought with Captain Reynolds in the war?
ZOE: Fought with a lot of people in the war.
HARKEN: And your husband?
ZOE: Fight with him sometimes, too.

Or River "fixing" Book's Bible:

RIVER: (confidingly) Noah's ark is a problem.
BOOK: Really?
RIVER: We'll have to call it "early quantum state phenomenon." Only way to fit 5000 species of mammal on the same boat.

Or Jayne in his inimitable fashion:

JAYNE: Yeah, and if wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak.

Or, of course, my very favorite bit of Mal-Zoe rapid-fire, long-time-partners exchange (*points at icon*):

MAL: Well, look at this! Appears we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us?
ZOE: Big damn heroes, sir.

Or, well, I'm sure other people will be along with their favorite quotes too.

Also, an Alliance cruiser in the pilot is named the Dortmunder. How can you not like a show that names a big-ass ship after a small-time crook?

Best and most important episodes

I would rank the episodes, in terms of my enjoyment and my opinion of their quality, in roughly these categories:

  • Excellent
    • (107) "Out of Gas"
    • (108) "Ariel"
    • (113) "Objects in Space"
  • Very Good
    • (100) "Serenity"
    • (109) "War Stories"
    • (110) "Trash"
  • Good
    • (102) "Bushwhacked"
    • (104) "Safe"
    • (105) "Our Mrs. Reynolds"
    • (106) "Jaynestown" [a lot of people rank this higher]
  • So-so
    • (101) "The Train Job"
    • (103) "Shindig"
    • (111) "The Message" [a lot of people also rank this much higher]
    • (112) "Heart of Gold"

As for the episodes that are important, here's a rundown in airing order:

  • "Serenity": The pilot. Watch it, or be confused the way the poor people who saw the series as originally aired by Fox were.
  • "The Train Job": Introduces a character who recurs in "War Stories," but you really don't need to watch it to understand that. It does have one great Mal moment at the end.
  • "Bushwhacked": The episode most focused on the Reavers, which makes it fairly important.
  • "Shindig": If you find Mal/Inara interesting, or if you like costumes or Gone with the Wind-type settings, watch it. Otherwise it's not central.
  • "Safe": The first Tam-centered episode and therefore important to that ongoing arc.
  • "Our Mrs. Reynolds": Very funny and introduces the great character of Saffron who shows up again in "Trash," with some Mal character development. Unlike "The Train Job," the later episode does benefit from having met Saffron before.
  • "Jaynestown": Starts the process of making Jayne interesting and therefore worth watching as preparation for "Ariel."
  • "Out of Gas": Just watch it. Backstories for the original crew and it's brilliant to boot.
  • "Ariel": Central to both the River-arc and to Jayne's character development.
  • "War Stories": The dynamic between Zoe, Wash, and Mal gets a full treatment. If you like Wash (and if you don't, why not?!), you'll want to watch this one.
  • "Trash": Saffron's back and there's fallout from "Ariel."
  • "The Message": I think it's very skippable. Involves an old war buddy of Mal and Zoe's.
  • "Heart of Gold": A standalone planetside job. Extremely skippable.
  • "Objects in Space": This is a River-centered episode and highly recommended.

If anyone's read down this far: short version is that I love the characters, and if you're even somewhat engaged by them after the pilot, then keep watching.



(Post a new comment)


[info]montoya
2005-07-22 01:09 am UTC (link)
Why people didn't like River: Probably because she's heavily reminiscent of Drusilla, one of the very annoying (and thankfully, pretty minor) characters from Buffy.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 01:10 am UTC (link)
Ah. As-you-know-Bob, I haven't seen _Buffy_ and don't intend to, so thanks for the explanation.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]montoya
2005-07-22 01:24 am UTC (link)
With the level of exuberant fannishness that you have, I think watching Buffy would be a very serious mistake, so yeah, probably for the best.

(Also, irrespective of Buffy, the mystically insane waif is not really everyone's teacup.)

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 01:27 am UTC (link)
Ummm, what?

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]montoya
2005-07-22 01:30 am UTC (link)
I mean: When you like something, you get very much into it, and read fan sites and fan fiction and make user icons and so forth with it. And with Buffy, there's enough material (both original and fan-generated) to suck up a year's worth of free time, so if you started watching it, you'd probably end up not having enough time to get into it as much as you want.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 01:33 am UTC (link)
Ah. Well, that was already one reason I wasn't planning to, because of the time commitment just to watch the episodes. But, mostly, I'm just not interested in the premise.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]montoya
2005-07-22 01:40 am UTC (link)
(I view the latter objection as irrelevant, as I was actively hostile to the premise. It's all about the characters, there as in Firefly.)

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 01:46 am UTC (link)
*sigh* Stop it.

_Firefly_--anything else to convince people to try it?

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Anything else?
[info]cheshyre
2005-07-22 02:08 am UTC (link)
Just found this article, which says:
"And remember, every time you support a canceled Fox show, somewhere a network executive loses his wings."

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: Anything else?
[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 02:17 am UTC (link)
Hee! I like it.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]montoya
2005-07-22 03:04 am UTC (link)
Good writing. The two best writers in television are Joss Whedon and Aaron Sorkin, and Sorkin totally sucks at long-form macro-plotting, which Whedon doesn't.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]pnh
2005-07-22 01:43 am UTC (link)
Neither was I, before I actually watched the show.

Indeed, I have a positive aversion to vampires, werewolves, and all the other furniture of traditional horror. This turned out to be irrelevant.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 01:46 am UTC (link)
It's less the trappings of traditional horror, than the idea of high school's horrors literalized. I don't particularly wish to go back to high school.

Anyway--anything to add to convincing people to try _Firefly_?

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]pnh
2005-07-22 01:52 am UTC (link)
You seem to be doing fine.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 02:07 am UTC (link)
Thanks--I hope so!

I can't wait until the movie is out and I can talk to y'all about it.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]yhlee
2005-07-22 02:44 am UTC (link)
Ah, that makes sense--I hadn't seen Buffy at the time, but Drusilla reminded me to River, and I liked River, and I ended up (mostly) liking Drusilla. Hrm.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]corruptedjasper
2005-07-22 01:16 am UTC (link)
You're just saying that 'cause you don't like the clinically insane.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]kattahj
2005-07-22 08:19 am UTC (link)
I love Drusilla, but I don't really like River, though it comes in waves - sometimes I hate her, sometimes she's pretty okay.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]rilina
2005-07-22 01:22 am UTC (link)
I increasingly liked River and increasingly disliked Kaylee as the show went on. The latter probably makes me an awful person.

My ratings are very similar to yours, though I'd move "Jaynestown" and "The Message" both up one notch.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 01:26 am UTC (link)
I wavered over both "Jaynestown" and "Our Mrs. Reynolds," not sure if I was downgrading them just because they were comedic. Maybe so and maybe no, but that's where they seemed to fit best. And "Trash" is funny, after all, too.

I don't know if not liking Kaylee makes you an awful person; I was surprised how much I did like her.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]yhlee
2005-07-22 02:45 am UTC (link)
Dear, you're not alone. I warmed a little toward Kaylee at moments, but I just wanted to shoot her dead in the pilot, and as the show went on, particularly certain relationship aspects, I felt she was annoying and should go do something else. Like go back to fixing the ship.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]ellarien
2005-07-22 01:34 am UTC (link)
You make it sound interesting enough that I'd be tempted if I wasn't going to be travelling for most of the time it's on.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 01:38 am UTC (link)
DVD set! It's only four discs so it's not expensive at all!

*tempts*

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]kgbooklog
2005-07-22 02:23 am UTC (link)
Any adaptations in other media (scripts, novelizations, graphic novels)? I've recently realized that I just don't have the attention span needed for movies and TV.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 02:30 am UTC (link)
There is a three-issue comic coming out now, that's to bridge the gap between the series and the movie.

There will also be a movie novelization written by Keith R.A. DeCandido.

Nothing series-proper, I believe.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]cheshyre
2005-07-22 03:30 am UTC (link)
Well, transcripts of the TV show scripts have been posted online in enough places they're easy to find. They're shooting scripts (meaning things changed in filming -- often removing exposition because the actors are that darn good at conveying the information nonverbally) and it's nowhere near as good as seeing the eps, but if you're more of a reader than a viewer, it's... adequate (probably better than nothing)

And not an adaptation, but for after you've seen the series, there's a book of nonfiction essays about the show: Finding Serenity : Anti-Heroes, Lost Shepherds and Space Hookers in Joss Whedon's Firefly. Quality is mixed, but there's some good stuff in there.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 11:26 am UTC (link)
There are transcripts _and_ shooting scripts for all the aired episodes, but only shooting scripts for the unaired.

http://firefly.shriftweb.org/transcripts.shtml

(except that the one for "Ariel" is corrupted, both HTML and text)

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]kgbooklog
2005-07-22 09:07 pm UTC (link)
*add bookmark*

Thanks!

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]desdenova
2005-07-22 02:24 am UTC (link)
Re: River-dislike. I didn't exactly *dislike* her at the beginning, but I didn't really care for her. At the beginning, she comes off as Terribly Traumatized Victim Girl Who Just Can't Cope, and I don't find that a very interesting character type. (And, Mike, I did not think she was anything like Drusilla. 'Course, I liked Drusilla from the moment she & Spike popped up.)

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 02:32 am UTC (link)
Okay, I guess that's fair. I knew her from an RPG so I came at it from an odd angle.

New viewers: she definitely moves past girl-who-can't-cope.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]desdenova
2005-07-22 03:25 am UTC (link)
Right. I forgot to add that she does become more interesting over time, and I ended up liking her quite a bit.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]annewashere
2005-07-22 01:41 pm UTC (link)
River irritated me for the same reason you state until the episode where she fixes Book's bible for him.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]rabidotter
2005-07-22 04:07 am UTC (link)
So how much will the sci-fi channel chop out so they can stick in a commercial? They tend to show more commercials than most other networks. I'll have to see if the Space Network (which I suspect is owned by the SciFi Channel, but has more Canadian content) carries this.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 11:27 am UTC (link)
re: commercials: couldn't say, unfortunately;

re: Space Network: they have in the past, because I know someone who watched them all, in the right order, on it.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]forodwaith
2005-07-22 06:49 pm UTC (link)
Yep, the Space Network shows Firefly. Thursdays @ 11 pm EST.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]settiai
2005-07-22 06:58 am UTC (link)
Hi. I followed a link on my Friends List, so here I am. :-)

I've been trying to convince a few of friends to at least give Firefly a shot, and you've managed to do that much better than I ever could.

"Heart of Gold": A standalone planetside job. Extremely skippable.

I'd agree if it weren't for one thing... the last few minutes of the episode are pretty important in the Inara storyline.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 11:30 am UTC (link)
Hi! Nice icon. And thanks so much.

As for "Heart of Gold": mmphh, well, this is true, except it's such a short important bit that I'd rather just post a spoiler for it and tell people to read it at the appropriate time, to wit:

(rot13)
vanen qrpvqrf gb yrnir gur fuvc ng gur raq bs gur rcvfbqr orpnhfr fur'f ehaavat njnl sebz ure srryvat sbe zny

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]annewashere
2005-07-22 01:48 pm UTC (link)
I would move up 'The Message', and I think I'm the only fan in the known world that didn't really care for 'Objects in Space'.

Good job, though. I really don't have anything to add, except that I tend to be skeptical of people that try to rescue dead television shows, and this is an example where one shouldn't be skeptical. These characters really are too good to lose.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 01:55 pm UTC (link)
Like I said, a lot of people found "The Message" much more interesting than I did. I just didn't find the guest character interesting, and was badly annoyed at what I perceived as a missing link in the episode's emotional logic.

Not caring for "Objects in Space," though, well that's just weird. =>

And thanks!

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]marykaykare
2005-07-23 11:06 pm UTC (link)
I didn't like "The Message" either. I thought it was poorly disguised emotional manipulation. On the other hand, I did like "Heart of Gold" much more than you did which is really pretty much the same.

"Trash" is one of my very favorites. "Yeah. That went well."

MKK

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-24 03:51 am UTC (link)
I think "Trash" is the episode I'm happiest to see get aired, of the three that weren't, just for the follow-up to "Ariel" on top of Saffron's return--fun *and* significant to the character development.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]exrat
2005-07-22 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Other, possibly too political, reasons to watch the show:

- A female engineer. Who isn't socially maladjusted, sexually-frigid-in-glasses-until-she-meets-the-right-guy, incompetent, or a male-teenage-dork wet dream. Like Kaylee or not, you must admit she's a mighty unusual sight in teeveeland.

- A sympathetic but not twee-angelic character with serious mental illness. Also a teevee rarity.

- A male character whose essential role is caretaking. More than one, actually; Book fits this notion as well as Simon. (Though I should probably hold back on Book, 'cuz there's backstory there I don't know. Haven't seen Serenity yet; maybe some of it's explained there.)

- See icon. :) 'Nuff said.

I want more of these sorts of characters on teevee and in movies. And I want more voices like Ron Glass's, because my gosh, has that man ever got a beautiful speaking voice.

The one thing the Firefly crew is missing is an older female character. They've got so much, though, that I hesitate to fault them for that.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-22 10:21 pm UTC (link)
All excellent reasons! And whatever Book's backstory, his role in the show now is very caretaker-ish.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


(Anonymous)
2005-07-23 06:15 pm UTC (link)
Well, I'd say you get at least an assist in getting someone new to watch the series; I saw them when they originally aired on Fox, and when I saw they were out on DVD, I told my wife we should rent them, but she only got around to Netflixing them after reading your original posts on them. We both really liked them ("Better than _Alias_", my wife exclaimed, which was the immediate predecessor in her post-partum entertainment line-up), and are looking forward to _Serenity_.

(She also exclaimed--I think tongue in cheek--at least once an episode "I can see why this was cancelled...most people won't put up with all those Chinese interjections". I tried to explain about world-building and "color" but I'm not sure she was buying it. We both understand Mandarin, and both only caught about half of the Mandarin interjections simply because the actors' pronunciations were by and large so atrocious.)

She loved the humor and the characters, though, so good job proselytizing....

--Trent

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kate_nepveu
2005-07-23 07:01 pm UTC (link)
Terrific! Glad to hear you both liked them, and that you got to see the unaired episodes on DVD.

(Reply to this) (Parent)

Translations to Mandarin
[info]skzbrust
2005-10-09 07:51 pm UTC (link)

I'm not sure who "Trent" is who wrote the message below, but, if you read this, do you have interest in doing some translations into Mandarin, in exchange for a mention in the acknowledgments of a novel (assuming Pocket Books buys the thing)? I have someone supposedly doing it, but the "couple of days" has stretched to a week, and I'm getting antsy. If you're interested, email me at skzb@dreamcafe.com

Thanks.

Steven Brust

(Anonymous)

"(She also exclaimed--I think tongue in cheek--at least once an episode "I can see why this was cancelled...most people won't put up with all those Chinese interjections". I tried to explain about world-building and "color" but I'm not sure she was buying it. We both understand Mandarin, and both only caught about half of the Mandarin interjections simply because the actors' pronunciations were by and large so atrocious.)"

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: Translations to Mandarin
[info]kate_nepveu
2005-10-09 08:37 pm UTC (link)
I'm going to forward this to Trent, since he probably won't see this himself, and separately e-mail you his contact information.

(Also, welcome!)

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]pinkk_polkadot
2005-08-11 08:30 pm UTC (link)
I recently started watching them on Sci Fi channel. I saw "The Train Job" and immediately wanted more...not just for the action but for the storylines and characters. I ordered the DVD set and have watched all the episodes. Can't wait for Serenity and I may be alone in thisbut does it seem like River seems to get "better" in Objects in Space??

(Reply to this)


[info]rinue
2008-06-03 11:59 am UTC (link)
I know this is an entry from way many years ago, but I found it while randomly google searching, and thought I would add my experience that the reason I disliked River was the crazy Fox airing order - she's a character that develops throughout the series, but if you mix that up, it doesn't look like an arc - it looks like a character the writers and actors weren't sure what to do with, like they were constantly trying to tweak how crazy she should be.

Seen in order, it makes more sense, and I like her.

(Reply to this)


Create an Account
Forgot your login or password?
Login w/ OpenID
English • Español • Deutsch • Русский…