I've been thinking about this for a while, and the dog is asleep on my foot, so now's as good a time as any to ask: is there a generally-accepted theory about the women in "Tangled Up in Blue"?
This will be easier to explain with lyrics, so cut for length:
Lyrics from Dylan's website, with numbered verses for ease of reference:
- Early one mornin' the sun was shinin',
I was layin' in bed
Wond'rin' if she'd changed at all
If her hair was still red.
Her folks they said our lives together
Sure was gonna be rough
They never did like Mama's homemade dress
Papa's bankbook wasn't big enough.
And I was standin' on the side of the road
Rain fallin' on my shoes
Heading out for the East Coast
Lord knows I've paid some dues gettin' through,
Tangled up in blue. - She was married when we first met
Soon to be divorced
I helped her out of a jam, I guess,
But I used a little too much force.
We drove that car as far as we could
Abandoned it out West
Split up on a dark sad night
Both agreeing it was best.
She turned around to look at me
As I was walkin' away
I heard her say over my shoulder,
"We'll meet again someday on the avenue,"
Tangled up in blue. - I had a job in the great north woods
Working as a cook for a spell
But I never did like it all that much
And one day the ax just fell.
So I drifted down to New Orleans
Where I happened to be employed
Workin' for a while on a fishin' boat
Right outside of Delacroix.
But all the while I was alone
The past was close behind,
I seen a lot of women
But she never escaped my mind, and I just grew
Tangled up in blue. - She was workin' in a topless place
And I stopped in for a beer,
I just kept lookin' at the side of her face
In the spotlight so clear.
And later on as the crowd thinned out
I's just about to do the same,
She was standing there in back of my chair
Said to me, "Don't I know your name?"
I muttered somethin' underneath my breath,
She studied the lines on my face.
I must admit I felt a little uneasy
When she bent down to tie the laces of my shoe,
Tangled up in blue. - She lit a burner on the stove and offered me a pipe
"I thought you'd never say hello," she said
"You look like the silent type."
Then she opened up a book of poems
And handed it to me
Written by an Italian poet
From the thirteenth century.
And every one of them words rang true
And glowed like burnin' coal
Pourin' off of every page
Like it was written in my soul from me to you,
Tangled up in blue. - I lived with them on Montague Street
In a basement down the stairs,
There was music in the cafes at night
And revolution in the air.
Then he started into dealing with slaves
And something inside of him died.
She had to sell everything she owned
And froze up inside.
And when finally the bottom fell out
I became withdrawn,
The only thing I knew how to do
Was to keep on keepin' on like a bird that flew,
Tangled up in blue. - So now I'm goin' back again,
I got to get to her somehow.
All the people we used to know
They're an illusion to me now.
Some are mathematicians
Some are carpenter's wives.
Don't know how it all got started,
I don't know what they're doin' with their lives.
But me, I'm still on the road
Headin' for another joint
We always did feel the same,
We just saw it from a different point of view,
Tangled up in blue.
The women in verses 1 & 2 can't be the same. I think verse 5 refers to yet a third woman (who is also the same as the woman in verse 4). The woman in verse 6 could be the same as any of the prior women, or someone completely different. And yet the singular is used throughout.
Any generally accepted interpretation of this? Personally I like to think of it as a fantasy story of some sort, but my biases are showing.
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It reminds me of A Bang on the Ear.
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I will have to see if we have that Waterboys song, thanks.
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I suppose it could also be an alien intelligence or goddess moving consciousness between blue-eyed women. But the reincarnation motif can also be seen more overtly in other Dylan songs like "Oh Sister" "We grew up together from the cradle to the grave, we died and were reborn..."
I love this song, and not only because without it I probably wouldn't have read Dante at sixteen.
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But that would be interesting all the same.
Montague or Montagu?
(Anonymous)
2007-05-17 11:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
John Lennon and Yoko Ono lived there after he left his wife - where he and Yoko used a lot of heroin and were later busted.
I surmise that this verse is about John Lennon...
"REVOLUTION was in the air"
ben urquhart
Re: Montague or Montagu?
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I may still have some lingering effects from being all feverish the other night, but I think you can make it make sense with just two women:
The woman in verse 1 is someone the singer knew as a young man, who he wanted to marry, but her parents didn't approve. so he set off for the East Coast to try to make some money.
Verses 2-6 describe a different woman: After setting out from home, the singer works as a cook, and then on a fishing boat (verse 3), and then stops into a topless place. He becomes friends with a dancer (verses 4-5), who happens to be married, lives with her and her husband for a while, until things go bad (verse 6), then he does something violent to the husband, and they split up (verse 2).
After all that, his thoughts turn back to the woman from verse 1, and verse 7 finds him heading home to see if she's still there.
That's kind of awkward, but I almost buy it. I think you could make them all be one woman, if not for the line about her parents in verse 1, which doesn't really fit with her being married when they first met.
Then again, I might still be slightly feverish...
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I don't know if you're still feverish, but requiring verse 2 to be the only one out of chronological order does seem to be a stretch.
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I used to live on Montague Street
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Yes, it's an important street in the history of Brooklyn Heights, and the United States, for that matter. At its foot is The Promenade, and the memorial about George Washington's escape by night across the river to New Jersey, as part of the Battle of Long Island.
Montague Street is the key to the whole song. Cafes, revolution in the air.
I've written tens of thousands of words on this. Don't get me started. Music -- which music? Google for which musicians were in Brooklyn Heights when Dylan visited from Greenwich Village and the like. Revolution -- which revolutionaries?
But google some more, and you'll see that other Dylanologists have latched on tho Montague Street, and debated it.
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Also, I think it's worth considering this in the contect of "Shelter From the Storm" and "Idiot Wind" (also on Blood on the Tracks) which are also about multiple interactions of a man and a woman who may or may not be the same, in weird versions of US history, then I think you've legitimately got a theme going on.
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